Comments on: Melbourne Airport Rail’s trail of destruction https://wongm.com/2023/08/melbourne-airport-rail-sunshine-shared-path-destruction/ Marcus Wong. Gunzel. Engineering geek. History nerd. Mon, 23 Sep 2024 21:32:48 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Photos from ten years ago: September 2014 - Waking up in Geelong https://wongm.com/2023/08/melbourne-airport-rail-sunshine-shared-path-destruction/#comment-951692 Mon, 23 Sep 2024 21:32:48 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21266#comment-951692 […] But as you might have guessed, the Melbourne Rail Link project went nowhere, construction of the Metro Tunnel started a few years later and is almost finished, and work on the Melbourne Airport Rail project has been stop-start. […]

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By: M https://wongm.com/2023/08/melbourne-airport-rail-sunshine-shared-path-destruction/#comment-881508 Thu, 03 Aug 2023 06:15:42 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21266#comment-881508 In reply to indigohex3.

But Airport Rail has been planned and run by Labor all through…and Dan Andrews has been around for a long tine.

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By: indigohex3 https://wongm.com/2023/08/melbourne-airport-rail-sunshine-shared-path-destruction/#comment-881471 Thu, 03 Aug 2023 01:53:26 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21266#comment-881471 In reply to jw.

The main problem is a lack of continuity between governments of different parties, like if a project was planned under Labor then the Liberals would cancel it and vice versa. It is this lack of continuity between governments that has caused problems in regards to planning, commitment as well as coordination when it comes to development. This is not just happening in Victoria, but throughout the world.

We need to fix these problems, but no doubt the media has contributed to this problem through the picking of winners, and calls for taxes to be cut (most notably payroll and land) which is often detrimental to the provision of services (such as public transport or education, which experiences cuts to services when taxes are cut).

I feel that we need better coordination between both Labor and Liberals (as well as minor parties) when it comes to projects like the Metro Tunnel or the Suburban Rail Loop or the Airport Rail (which will take cars off the road) and not rebadge everything when a new government comes into power which is a total waste of money.

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2023/08/melbourne-airport-rail-sunshine-shared-path-destruction/#comment-881200 Wed, 02 Aug 2023 02:36:55 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21266#comment-881200 In reply to James.

I wonder what scope could be cut from airport rail – East Keilor station and the junctions around Sunshine are the only ones that come to mind.

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2023/08/melbourne-airport-rail-sunshine-shared-path-destruction/#comment-881199 Wed, 02 Aug 2023 02:35:53 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21266#comment-881199 In reply to Malcolm M.

Given the land use around the airport terminals is mostly car parking, I’d assume cut and cover tunnelling would be a cheaper option.

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By: Malcolm M https://wongm.com/2023/08/melbourne-airport-rail-sunshine-shared-path-destruction/#comment-881068 Tue, 01 Aug 2023 02:53:24 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21266#comment-881068 I wonder if a new station at the Airport could be underground, using the tunnel boring machines now on the North East Link. If the diameter were like the Eastlink tunnels they would have an internal diameter of 14m, which would be plenty for a train (5m) and platform (9m). A station with 2 parallel wide bore tunnels for 2 platforms and an approach with a single wide-bore tunnel could all be built for about 1.2km of tunnelling.

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By: James https://wongm.com/2023/08/melbourne-airport-rail-sunshine-shared-path-destruction/#comment-881067 Tue, 01 Aug 2023 02:34:53 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21266#comment-881067 In reply to Andrew.

At this stage it’s unclear, but due to the amount of resources that seriously went into planning and starting the early works, it’s a bit too far into the project for a full cancellation. It’s more likely there’s going to be a rescope of the project, as done on other projects to reduce costs. MM1 rescoped during the 2020 review cutting some of the signalling and other upgrades, Mildura basin rail project also rescoped their project following a review in 2021 and there was some rescoping on some regional rail revival projects cutting out some duplication out due to keeping on the budget as well.

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By: jw https://wongm.com/2023/08/melbourne-airport-rail-sunshine-shared-path-destruction/#comment-881054 Tue, 01 Aug 2023 00:36:00 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21266#comment-881054 In reply to Andrew.

Marcus, what a depressing read, and I fear that Andrew is correct (although I have very little money left to put on it). Melbourne is already a problem with no planning, no commitment, and uncoordinated development, and it will become a nightmare.

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By: Andrew https://wongm.com/2023/08/melbourne-airport-rail-sunshine-shared-path-destruction/#comment-881022 Mon, 31 Jul 2023 21:52:48 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21266#comment-881022 My money is on cancellation, making it a problem for future generations, at an even greater cost.

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