Comments on: Retired V/Line locomotives now hauling freight https://wongm.com/2024/04/retired-vline-locomotives-hauling-freight/ Marcus Wong. Gunzel. Engineering geek. History nerd. Tue, 25 Jun 2024 11:18:17 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Photos from ten years ago: June 2014 - Waking up in Geelong https://wongm.com/2024/04/retired-vline-locomotives-hauling-freight/#comment-936974 Tue, 25 Jun 2024 11:18:17 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21957#comment-936974 […] fleet of A class diesel locomotives were still in frontline service a decade […]

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By: Photos from ten years ago: May 2014 - Waking up in Geelong https://wongm.com/2024/04/retired-vline-locomotives-hauling-freight/#comment-932759 Mon, 27 May 2024 21:32:08 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21957#comment-932759 […] V/Line services still sharing the tracks with suburban trains, such as this since-retired P class hauled push-pull […]

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2024/04/retired-vline-locomotives-hauling-freight/#comment-928109 Fri, 26 Apr 2024 00:50:32 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21957#comment-928109 In reply to Graeme Hammond.

Even diesel locomotives from the 1980s aren’t particularly clean.

https://www.epa.nsw.gov.au/your-environment/air/non-road-diesel-marine-emissions/reducing-diesel-emissions-locomotives

https://www.epa.nsw.gov.au/-/media/epa/corporate-site/resources/air/diesel-locomotive-emissions-upgrade-kit.pdf

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By: Graeme Hammond https://wongm.com/2024/04/retired-vline-locomotives-hauling-freight/#comment-927307 Mon, 22 Apr 2024 08:53:55 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21957#comment-927307 Seriously, diesel locomotives built in the 1950s are still in service? Logic suggests that their older technology comes with higher levels of diesel pollution which would add to the chronic air quality problems in the inner west.

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2024/04/retired-vline-locomotives-hauling-freight/#comment-927208 Mon, 22 Apr 2024 00:57:21 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21957#comment-927208 In reply to indigohex3.

I’d assume V/Line would one way replace the locomotive hauled trains on the Swan Hill line with VLocities, but they’d need to complete the level crossing and stabling upgrades on the line, similar to what has been done to the Bairnsdale, Shepparton and now Warrnambool lines.

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2024/04/retired-vline-locomotives-hauling-freight/#comment-927207 Mon, 22 Apr 2024 00:56:14 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21957#comment-927207 In reply to Liam.

As for V/Line trains being slower than when the VLocity trains were first introduced, the “headline” times were for a single express train to Melbourne in the morning, and a single express track back in the evening – in the years since they’ve added more stops to those runs.

https://the-iron-road.blogspot.com/2019/02/ballarat-to-melbourne-in-under-hour.html

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2024/04/retired-vline-locomotives-hauling-freight/#comment-927206 Mon, 22 Apr 2024 00:53:53 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21957#comment-927206 In reply to Liam.

Southern Shorthaul Railroad’s broad gauge in Victoria are mostly B and S class locomotives built between 1952 and 1961, so they’ve still managed to half the age of their fleet.

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2024/04/retired-vline-locomotives-hauling-freight/#comment-927205 Mon, 22 Apr 2024 00:52:12 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21957#comment-927205 In reply to PAUL MC CONVILLE.

Back in the mid-2000s the locomotive hauled stock was supposed to be replaced by VLocities, but growing patronage kept seeing that idea kicked down the line.

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By: indigohex3 https://wongm.com/2024/04/retired-vline-locomotives-hauling-freight/#comment-926322 Thu, 18 Apr 2024 13:28:23 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21957#comment-926322 A question. As you may or may not be aware, the N-type carriages still run on the Swan Hill line. Will the Vlocity trains ever run to Swan Hill, or will the locomotives and N-type carriages still run on said line?

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By: Liam https://wongm.com/2024/04/retired-vline-locomotives-hauling-freight/#comment-926300 Thu, 18 Apr 2024 08:46:22 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21957#comment-926300 With the N Class being built during the mid 1980’s, they will not do much to reduce the age of the private freight fleet. The youngest are turning 37 this year, the oldest, 39.

Sadly V/Line have not modified the broad gauge V/Locity sets for long distance operation, and a trip out to Bairsdale warrants hearing protection.

A side note, I find about travel times for the V/Locity sets in 2005. https://www.theage.com.au/national/fast-trains-strike-costly-sound-hitch-20051011-ge111s.html
“Only the Geelong trip, at 45 minutes, will be as fast as originally spruiked.

Other times: Ballarat 64 minutes, Bendigo 84, Traralgon 95.”

However, the current timetable has Traralgon taking 141 minutes from Flinders Street or 147 minutes from Southern Cross, for the outbound morning express service. About 50 minutes slower than the revised estimate.

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