deja vu Archives - Waking up in Geelong https://wongm.com/tag/deja-vu/ Marcus Wong. Gunzel. Engineering geek. History nerd. Thu, 06 Aug 2020 23:48:27 +0000 en-AU hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 23299142 Down the library and another case of deja vu https://wongm.com/2020/08/familiar-matters-photographs-from-wikimedia-commons/ https://wongm.com/2020/08/familiar-matters-photographs-from-wikimedia-commons/#comments Thu, 13 Aug 2020 21:30:00 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=13866 Over the years I’ve read so many books about trains and taken so many photos of them, that each train starts to blur into each other – but my recent experience at the library was a new one. I was flicking through a copy of “Engineering Marvels of Australia – Australia’s Railways” by Alison Hidek […]

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Over the years I’ve read so many books about trains and taken so many photos of them, that each train starts to blur into each other – but my recent experience at the library was a new one.

I was flicking through a copy of “Engineering Marvels of Australia – Australia’s Railways” by Alison Hidek when I had a case of deja vu.

With the photo of a Melbourne train in the bottom left corner looking awfully familiar.

Was it a photo of mine that I’d uploaded to Wikipedia way back in November 2007?

After a check of the title page:

Yes!

p21b – Caulfield Group City Loop portal by Marcus Wong via Wikimedia

Content uploaded to Wikimedia Commons is free to reuse, provided you follow the terms specified by the author.

Unlike traditional media repositories, Wikimedia Commons is free. Everyone is allowed to copy, use and modify any files here freely as long as they follow the terms specified by the author; this often means crediting the source and author(s) appropriately and releasing copies/improvements under the same freedom to others. The license conditions of each individual media file can be found on their description page

In my case – Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike license.

This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International, 3.0 Unported, 2.5 Generic, 2.0 Generic and 1.0 Generic license.
You are free:
– to share – to copy, distribute and transmit the work
– to remix – to adapt the work
Under the following conditions:
– attribution – You must give appropriate credit, provide a link to the license, and indicate if changes were made. You may do so in any reasonable manner, but not in any way that suggests the licensor endorses you or your use.
– share alike – If you remix, transform, or build upon the material, you must distribute your contributions under the same or compatible license as the original.

So everything was above board.

Footnote

I’ve written about finding Wikipedia uploads in real life before, in Keeping track of V/Line ‘borrowed’ photos.

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Visiting the deja vu milk bar on Facebook https://wongm.com/2019/01/old-geelong-milkbar-facebook-post-stolen-images/ https://wongm.com/2019/01/old-geelong-milkbar-facebook-post-stolen-images/#comments Mon, 14 Jan 2019 20:30:53 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=11933 If you’re the kind of person who enjoys tracking down the source of stolen photographs, then Facebook groups are the source of endless joy. I found this photo on Facebook the other week, but “retro Aussie lollies” weren’t what caught my eye – the milk bar did. It looked like a milk bar in the […]

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If you’re the kind of person who enjoys tracking down the source of stolen photographs, then Facebook groups are the source of endless joy. I found this photo on Facebook the other week, but “retro Aussie lollies” weren’t what caught my eye – the milk bar did.

It looked like a milk bar in the back streets of the Geelong suburb of St Albans Park, and for good reason – it was.

But where did the original photo come from? That bit is a lot easier than it used to be – thanks to the ‘search Google for image‘ feature in Chrome.

It didn’t find the exact photo I uploaded, but it did find the original unmodified image.

Which then sent me into the swamp of stolen content that is Pinterest.

Once I swatted away the plague of Pinterest popups and overlay text, I could see the full image.

And a link to the original source.

An Instagram post that has since been deleted.

Great.

And a sad ending

From the March 22, 2017 edition of the Geelong Advertiser.

Another Geelong milk bar closes its doors as world moves on

Another beacon of the past will be lost next Friday when the St Albans Park general store ceases trade.

Owner Mick Robertson has cited lost trade in the wake of job losses at Ford and Alcoa as one of the reasons he has decided to shut his doors for good.

“In 2008 we had about 300 people through the door each day with an average spend of $9 each now we have about the same amount of people through the door but average spend has dropped to $3,” Mr Robertson said.

Mr Robertson said his Westmoreland St milk bar and post office has been in business 23 years and at its peak employed the equivalent of four full time staff.

“At one stage we were extremely busy because supermarkets had restricted trade. Supermarkets closed at 6pm on weekdays, 1pm on Saturday and were closed Sunday,” he said.

Mr Robertson said his business took a hit when supermarket opening hours were extended in 1995.

“We took a hit but it was not fatal, because St Albans Park was a growing suburb,” he said.

Mr Robertson said he and his wife, Karyn, have had to dip into their superannuation to pay staff for the past eight months.

“Our margins have been going down and down, and we can’t compete against the supermarkets.”

Mr Robertson said he would look to redevelop the site in coming years.

Property development – the only “industry” Australia has left?

Footnote

The original Facebook post

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Keeping track of V/Line ‘borrowed’ photos https://wongm.com/2018/05/vline-borrowing-photos-for-information-posters/ https://wongm.com/2018/05/vline-borrowing-photos-for-information-posters/#comments Mon, 30 Apr 2018 21:30:00 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=9369 When you have taken as many photos of Victorian trains, trams and buses as I have, there is little point keeping track of every time people use your work without credit. An example of this occurred in early January, when someone spotted this temporary travel changes poster at Flinders Street Station and shared on a […]

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When you have taken as many photos of Victorian trains, trams and buses as I have, there is little point keeping track of every time people use your work without credit.

An example of this occurred in early January, when someone spotted this temporary travel changes poster at Flinders Street Station and shared on a bus enthusiast group with the following comment – “I wonder who’s photo V/Line has knocked off”.

Turns the photo that V/Line had knocked off was one of mine – taken back in 2013.

Ex-V/Line road coach 1507AC now owned by 'Golden Lotus Valley' tours

Another case of deja vu occurred back in June 2009, when I spotted this locally produced poster at promoting extended opening hours at Geelong line railways stations.

Sign at South Geelong promoting extended opening hours at Geelong line stations - June 2009

The train at the bottom was the familiar part – a photo of mine that I shared to Wikipedia back in 2007.

In this case reusing photos on Wikipedia is fair game, provided attribution is given – though in reality, people don’t know and don’t care when taking photos from the internet.

Nitpickers corner

If you look closely, you might have noticed that the bus in the first photo doesn’t even say V/Line anywhere on it – it’s an ex-V/Line road coach purchased by private operator GLV Coaches, who stripped off the V/Line logos but kept the red stripe down the side.

How did it end up as the first choice for someone creating a ‘V/Line replacement coaches’ poster – I have no idea!

And an update

In April I was walking past Flinders Street Station and saw the rail replacement bus sign with my own eyes – only now someone had drawn the V/Line logos drawn back in using a black texta.

'V/Line Traralgon coaches depart here' notice featuring an ex-V/Line bus

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Hey – I recognise those houses! https://wongm.com/2016/03/deja-vu-recognising-stock-photo/ https://wongm.com/2016/03/deja-vu-recognising-stock-photo/#comments Thu, 03 Mar 2016 20:30:38 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=4931 I was checking up on the Age website the other day, and had a sense of deja vu when I saw a stock photo of suburban houses on a hillside. So where did I recognise it from?

Fairfax stock photo by Paul Rovere: houses in Waurn Ponds, Victoria

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I was checking up on the Age website the other day, and had a sense of deja vu on seeing the stock photo of suburban houses on a hillside. So where did I recognise it from?

Fairfax stock photo by Paul Rovere: houses in Waurn Ponds, Victoria

Turns out that hillside was just around the corner from where I grew up, with the street in question being Rossack Drive in the southern Geelong suburb of Waurn Ponds.

End of the Geelong Ring Road in 2009

The photo in question was taken from where stage 3 of the Geelong Ring Road once terminated at the Princes Highway, in the days before it was extended up the Anglesea Road hill towards Winchelsea.

End of the Ring Road

As for the view back from Rossack Drive towards the Geelong Ring Road, the hill on the other side of the valley is also covered with newly built houses.

End of the Ring Road

Footnote

The article in question was titled NSW rush lifts housing loan figures and the photo was taken by editorial and commercial photographer Paul Rovere. Just don’t start complaining about the photo is of houses in the ‘wrong‘ state. 😛

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Melbourne Metro tunnel mentioned in Playboy https://wongm.com/2015/04/playboy-april-fools-melbourne-metro-rail-tunnel-diagram/ https://wongm.com/2015/04/playboy-april-fools-melbourne-metro-rail-tunnel-diagram/#respond Mon, 20 Apr 2015 21:30:50 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=5863 When you think of Playboy magazine, you normally think of nudie pictures, and not diagrams of major infrastructure projects - but for April Fools' Day in 2015 their website turned up the latter.

Tunnels at the Playboy mansion

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When you think of Playboy magazine, you normally think of nudie pictures, and not diagrams of major infrastructure projects – but for April Fools’ Day in 2015 their website turned up the latter.

Tunnels at the Playboy mansion

Titled ‘So, There Were Tunnels to Celebrity Homes Below the Playboy Mansion’, plenty of news outlets picked up the story and didn’t question it, but others said the tunnels were too good to be true.

I’m a sucker for stories about tunnels, so I kept reading, until I reached a schematic diagram of the supposed tunnel beneath the Playboy mansion.

Tunnels at the Playboy mansion - schematic diagram

It was then a strong feeling of deja vu hit me – I could have sworn I’d seen a identical tunnel profile diagram somewhere else.

Tunnels at the Playboy mansion - full size schematic diagram

A few years ago I found a diagram of the proposed Melbourne Metro tunnel profile beneath Swanston Street and posted it online, so I dug it out again.

Proposed Melbourne Metro tunnel profile beneath Swanston Street

Do you see the similarity?

A check of the diagram featured in the Playboy article showed plenty of detail.

Tunnels at the Playboy mansion - notes on the schematic diagram

Detail that was almost identical to the original Melbourne Metro rail tunnel diagram, other than the mentions of Melbourne.

East-West Rail Link Analysis on Rail Capacity - tunnel profile notes

So how did a diagram of the Melbourne Metro rail tunnel end up in Playboy? I’m guessing the staff behind the prank hit up Google Image Search for a diagram that matched the look and feel they were looking for, then used it as a basis for their artwork.

Note that version of the tunnel diagram is 3000 pixels across, which is three times as large as the Melbourne Metro rail tunnel diagram that I originally shared – in all, some pretty clever work from the team at Playboy.

Footnote

Playboy set the record straight on the tunnels a few days later, with an ‘April Fools!’ message from Hugh Hefner.

As to the original Melbourne Metro diagram, the notes on the bottom indicated that it was produced by two staff from Maunsell Australia Pty Ltd (now AECOM) – J. King and C. Stout. Both can now add ‘published in Playboy’ to their resume!

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Another copyright infringement story https://wongm.com/2015/03/another-copyright-infringement-story/ https://wongm.com/2015/03/another-copyright-infringement-story/#comments Thu, 05 Mar 2015 20:30:24 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=5658 The other week I was trawling the internet as I usually do when I stumbled upon a very familiar looking photo on Wikipedia. So what is the story behind it?

Tail end of a Hitachi at Richmond Station

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The other week I was trawling the internet as I usually do, researching a future blog post, when I stumbled upon a very familiar looking photo on Wikipedia.

Copyright infringing photo on Wikimedia Commons - 'Hitachi at Richmond station'

There was a good reason for that photo being familiar – I took it at Richmond station back on October 13, 2005.

Tail end of a Hitachi at Richmond Station

Over the past few years I’ve uploaded hundreds of my photos to Wikipedia – over 500 at last count – but the photo I found had been uploaded by someone else.

Incorrect date and false declaration of 'own work' on Wikimedia Commons

If pinching my photo isn’t enough, the thief had also gotten the date taken completely wrong – by October 2013 the remaining Hitachi fleet had all been stripped of the green and old ‘PTC’ livery when they received a minor refurbishment in 2007, followed by a Metro Trains sticker job in 2009.

Hitachi 275M and Siemens 705M stabled for the weekend at North Melbourne Sidings

Rather than clean up the mess of copyright infringement, the simplest way to fix it was a deletion request – just navigate through the byzantine speedy deletion request page and it is deleted!

Copyright infringing image deleted on Wikimedia Commons

Footnote

The bureaucratic processes of Wikipedia have been flagged as the biggest risks to the growth of the free encyclopaedia – both Slate and MIT Technology Review have written on the topic.

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‘I recognise that’ in a TV advertisement https://wongm.com/2014/10/australian-jeep-tv-advert-geelong-location/ https://wongm.com/2014/10/australian-jeep-tv-advert-geelong-location/#comments Thu, 16 Oct 2014 20:30:39 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=5099 I was watching television the other night when one of the insipid 'I bought a Jeep' advertisements came on. If anything, the commercials make me think of Jeep owners as wankers, but I did notice one interesting thing...

Hearne Parade, Geelong, Victoria - via Google Streetview

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I was watching television the other night when one of the insipid ‘I bought a Jeep’ advertisements came on. If anything, the commercials make me think of Jeep owners as wankers, but I did notice one interesting thing…

And that thing was the filming location at the 21 second mark, where there is a tail view of the car driving along the coast.

Yep – by the water in Geelong, with the car driving along Hearne Parade with Corio Bay in the background.

Hearne Parade, Geelong, Victoria - via Google Streetview

Skip forward to another day, and another ‘I bought a Jeep’ commercial, with another familar looking location.

This time it is a car driving over a bridge at the 24 second mark, followed by a parting shot of the same bridge.

Again the footage is from Geelong, but in a much more remote location –
Blackgate Road in Connewarre, with the bridge crossing over Thompson Creek.

Blackgate Road, Connewarre, Victoria - via Google Streetview

You can take the boy out of Geelong, but you can’t take Geelong out of the boy!

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