Comments on: Nine car trains and the short platform at Deer Park https://wongm.com/2024/08/nine-car-trains-platform-too-short-deer-park/ Marcus Wong. Gunzel. Engineering geek. History nerd. Sat, 05 Oct 2024 01:06:39 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: A history of nine car long V/Line trains - Waking up in Geelong https://wongm.com/2024/08/nine-car-trains-platform-too-short-deer-park/#comment-948670 Mon, 02 Sep 2024 21:32:57 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=22380#comment-948670 […] But look at what else was happening at the same time – a brand new station at Deer Park was opened in April 2023, with platforms only 215 metres long – half a carriage (10 metres) too short! […]

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2024/08/nine-car-trains-platform-too-short-deer-park/#comment-947107 Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:16:38 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=22380#comment-947107 In reply to dat boi.

A 7-car HCMT only needs a 160 metre long platform, so they would have gotten away with it!

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2024/08/nine-car-trains-platform-too-short-deer-park/#comment-947106 Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:15:55 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=22380#comment-947106 In reply to indigohex3.

The incoming Baillieu government paused work on Caroline Springs station because the “New stations in growth areas” project ran out of money, having to upgrade traction substations at Cardinia Road and Lynbrook so trains could actually stop there in peak times.

https://wongm.com/2013/08/caroline-springs-railway-station-saga/

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2024/08/nine-car-trains-platform-too-short-deer-park/#comment-947105 Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:13:27 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=22380#comment-947105 In reply to Beren Scott.

The only timetable with a worse mix of stopping patterns is the Belgrave/Lilydale line.

https://danielbowen.com/2024/04/13/stopping-patterns/

Through between December 2020 and January 2024 V/Line ran a six times daily unidirectional shuttle bus between Caroline Springs / Deer Park because the timetable made such a trip impossible by train.

https://railgallery.wongm.com/kinetic-vline-shuttle/

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By: Loco Jack https://wongm.com/2024/08/nine-car-trains-platform-too-short-deer-park/#comment-946889 Wed, 21 Aug 2024 23:10:34 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=22380#comment-946889 In reply to Greg Michael.

Same at Malmesbury and at Clarkefield. But these are historic limitations (ie the platforms stayed the same length and the trains got longer). It is reasonable to grandfather in the existing short platforms.

However this is a new build. Where did the problem come from? Poor contract management? Poor oversight? Just plain complete incompetence? Maybe all of the above.

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By: Greg Michael https://wongm.com/2024/08/nine-car-trains-platform-too-short-deer-park/#comment-946834 Wed, 21 Aug 2024 07:27:27 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=22380#comment-946834 There are examples where V/Locity trains stop at platforms which are too short. The 12:58 Up from Shepparton stops at Heathcote Junction, the only weekday Up Shep that does. The Up platform is just some 45m long. The conductor usually advises passengers to only alight from the leading car. Same occurs when an Up Seymour is formed by a VL. Only problem is for Sprinter trains which you need to be in the first car before you get there to alight.

Similarly, a double VL set is too long for some platforms between Pakenham & Longwarry, with announcements made not to alight from the last car.

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By: dat boi https://wongm.com/2024/08/nine-car-trains-platform-too-short-deer-park/#comment-946774 Tue, 20 Aug 2024 11:03:35 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=22380#comment-946774 Great post, when I read your previous post about the Deer Park station I thought (or hoped) that the reason for the short platform might be because they were only considering HCMTs after electrification rather than plain incompetence.

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By: indigohex3 https://wongm.com/2024/08/nine-car-trains-platform-too-short-deer-park/#comment-946769 Tue, 20 Aug 2024 10:52:49 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=22380#comment-946769 Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t the Liberals want East West Link (which didn’t have a business case), which would’ve added more traffic? And didn’t they propose a rail project that was unfunded? And didn’t they try to cancel Caroline Springs Station? People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones Matthew Guy. All these problems that the Liberals wanted to impose, and yet the Herald Sun talks about platforms that are 10 metres too short.

But on the other hand, this is what we tend to get in Melbourne’s west because we are told to be more interested in the latest AFL news or watch some crap like The Voice or The Block, while the rich in places like Toorak or Camberwell are told to be more interested in politics. That is why places like Toorak or Camberwell get something that works, while those in the west (such as this correspondent) gets dodgy. I think it is high time that people in Melbourne’s west follows politics more. But unfortunately, we won’t get it in the Liberal Party front that is the Herald Sun.

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By: Beren Scott https://wongm.com/2024/08/nine-car-trains-platform-too-short-deer-park/#comment-946747 Tue, 20 Aug 2024 02:43:06 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=22380#comment-946747 Everyone who lives on that train line hates living on that train line. The service is terrible. Frequent bus replacements and multiple express patterns.

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