Comments on: Fact check on the Frankston line https://wongm.com/2016/08/fact-check-frankston-line-grade-separation-media-release/ Marcus Wong. Gunzel. Engineering geek. History nerd. Thu, 15 Aug 2024 11:58:19 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2016/08/fact-check-frankston-line-grade-separation-media-release/#comment-946232 Thu, 15 Aug 2024 11:58:19 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=7216#comment-946232 In reply to Paul O’Connor.

Notable in 1988 for being the first skyscraper to be demolished in the Melbourne CBD.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRA_Building

]]>
By: Paul O’Connor https://wongm.com/2016/08/fact-check-frankston-line-grade-separation-media-release/#comment-946063 Tue, 13 Aug 2024 17:17:39 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=7216#comment-946063 Great shot of the Comalco Building in the third pic of the City Loop project!!!

]]>
By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2016/08/fact-check-frankston-line-grade-separation-media-release/#comment-814142 Thu, 03 Feb 2022 05:01:35 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=7216#comment-814142 In reply to Katina Money.

They installed some fancy looking but ineffective platform shelters back in 2007 as part of the EastLink project, and called it a day.

https://railgallery.wongm.com/melbourne-station-signs/F110_3765.jpg.html

Alstom Comeng arrives into Kananook on an up Frankston service

]]>
By: Katina Money https://wongm.com/2016/08/fact-check-frankston-line-grade-separation-media-release/#comment-813677 Tue, 01 Feb 2022 07:09:45 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=7216#comment-813677 When are they going to update kananook station still waiting

]]>
By: Upgrading Melbourne's railway network in the 1970s - Waking up in Geelong https://wongm.com/2016/08/fact-check-frankston-line-grade-separation-media-release/#comment-745217 Mon, 08 Mar 2021 22:42:13 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=7216#comment-745217 […] Minister Steve Crabb in 1984, and took until 1987 to be completed. It also also done on the cheap, with level crossings instead of grade […]

]]>
By: It wasn’t just a 37 day project – Daniel Bowen dot com https://wongm.com/2016/08/fact-check-frankston-line-grade-separation-media-release/#comment-429697 Fri, 18 Nov 2016 05:33:46 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=7216#comment-429697 […] the way, Marcus Wong has fact-checked the rhetoric: It’s unlikely the 37 days was the “biggest rail closure since the City Loop” […]

]]>
By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2016/08/fact-check-frankston-line-grade-separation-media-release/#comment-426735 Tue, 27 Sep 2016 02:55:48 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=7216#comment-426735 In reply to Ian.

Thanks for the addition Ian – which reminds me of the conversion of the main Melbourne-Adelaide line to standard gauge in 1995:

https://www.railexpress.com.au/20-years-on-a-pair-of-interstate-milestones/

]]>
By: Ian https://wongm.com/2016/08/fact-check-frankston-line-grade-separation-media-release/#comment-422210 Fri, 19 Aug 2016 06:15:07 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=7216#comment-422210 Another significant rail line closure was for St Kilda and Port Melbourne’s conversion to light rail. They both went a bit longer than the Frankston shutdown, as far as I can tell. St Kilda was early August to late November, more than three months; Port Melbourne was early October through to mid-December, so a bit over two months for that one.

]]>
By: Philip J. Rayment https://wongm.com/2016/08/fact-check-frankston-line-grade-separation-media-release/#comment-421746 Sat, 13 Aug 2016 00:50:10 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=7216#comment-421746 In reply to Marcus Wong.

I don’t recall any weekday peak period closures account constructing the city loop, at least from 1977 onwards when I started working for the Victorian Railways, travelling by train into the city each weekday. Admittedly work had started before then, so I can’t absolutely rule out closures before 1977.

Incidentally, I do recall reading about an incident before 1977 when a crane employed on loop construction work toppled over onto traction power lines near the old Flinders Street E Box. This connected traction power to signalling power, which burnt out signal cabling affecting most signals between Flinders Street and Richmond. Emergency rules were brought in to keep trains running, where instead of drivers being given written instructions by a signalman to pass a given signal at stop (which is how an unlit signal was supposed to be treated), they were given written instructions to pass /every/ signal to Richmond, because there were simply too many signals out to be able to do this for every individual signal. But they kept the trains running. (Although this probably involved clipping the points, which would have stopped some services, including affecting eastern passenger trains such as to Bairnsdale and Yarram, which in those days departed from platform 1 at Flinders Street.)

]]>
By: Chris Gordon https://wongm.com/2016/08/fact-check-frankston-line-grade-separation-media-release/#comment-421493 Tue, 09 Aug 2016 01:56:28 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=7216#comment-421493 In reply to Marcus Wong.

The Jolimont Rationalisation project in the late 1990s had pairs of tracks and platforms at Flinders St closed up to 4 weeks at a time, complete with temporary timetables. Big disruptions, but kept trains running through out. I suspect the City Loop works would have been much the same.

]]>