Comments on: Why are Melbourne railway footbridges so high? https://wongm.com/2019/04/why-are-melbourne-railway-station-footbridges-so-high/ Marcus Wong. Gunzel. Engineering geek. History nerd. Sun, 04 Aug 2019 11:11:25 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2019/04/why-are-melbourne-railway-station-footbridges-so-high/#comment-540087 Sun, 04 Aug 2019 11:11:25 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=9164#comment-540087 In reply to Kevin.

A few come to mind – this 1960s one on the goods lines at Sunshine North:

https://railgallery.wongm.com/melbourne-stations/F117_2467.jpg.html

This one on the Dandenong line near Noble Park Secondary College:

https://railgallery.wongm.com/melbourne-stations/F113_9978.jpg.html

Furner Avenue in North Geelong under the goods lines.

https://www.railgeelong.com/gallery/geelong-ballarat/furner-avenue/E120_9531.jpg.html

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By: Kevin https://wongm.com/2019/04/why-are-melbourne-railway-station-footbridges-so-high/#comment-540064 Sun, 04 Aug 2019 09:37:23 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=9164#comment-540064 In reply to Marcus Wong.

Is there any example of only a pedestrian underpass being constructed anywhere in Victoria, and not as part of other construction like a station?

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By: Kevin Balaam https://wongm.com/2019/04/why-are-melbourne-railway-station-footbridges-so-high/#comment-511941 Thu, 11 Apr 2019 21:31:08 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=9164#comment-511941 In reply to Marcus Wong.

Yes, that could be much easier. It appears suitable. Hopefully, there’ll be many similar crossings along there. However, would the new main sewerage pipe parallel to the tracks prevent it? That pipe and reservation are mentioned throughout the Donnybrook report as major restrictions on possible designs of the new station.

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2019/04/why-are-melbourne-railway-station-footbridges-so-high/#comment-511888 Thu, 11 Apr 2019 08:57:08 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=9164#comment-511888 In reply to MR.

One can find a copy of the standards here:

https://slidex.tips/download/vriogs-railway-station-design-standard-and-guidelines

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2019/04/why-are-melbourne-railway-station-footbridges-so-high/#comment-511887 Thu, 11 Apr 2019 08:56:16 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=9164#comment-511887 In reply to James.

It’s funny when they ignore those guidelines whenever they are too hard to meet – just look at the pedestrian subway at Southland station, opened in 2017.

Steps and ramp down to the pedestrian subway at Southland station

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2019/04/why-are-melbourne-railway-station-footbridges-so-high/#comment-511884 Thu, 11 Apr 2019 08:45:23 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=9164#comment-511884 In reply to John.

I’d assume the only way to lower the tracks through the tunnel would be to dig up the road above for the second time!

http://wiki.prov.vic.gov.au/index.php/VPRS_12800_P7_C_0481

As for remarshalling double stack freight trains, in Adelaide trains headed to/from Melbourne have their second level of containers added/remove for the trip west to Perth.

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2019/04/why-are-melbourne-railway-station-footbridges-so-high/#comment-511883 Thu, 11 Apr 2019 08:42:59 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=9164#comment-511883 In reply to Benjamin.

That would have to be the longest ramp in Melbourne, given the fact that it doesn’t turn back on itself anywhere.

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2019/04/why-are-melbourne-railway-station-footbridges-so-high/#comment-511882 Thu, 11 Apr 2019 08:42:05 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=9164#comment-511882 In reply to Kevin.

Excavating either side of the tracks to provide a wide Tarneit-style pedestrian underpass would be an easier option:

Looking north under the pedestrian underpass at Tarneit

Elevating or lowering the railway would be far more painful, given that the main Melbourne-Sydney line runs through there.

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2019/04/why-are-melbourne-railway-station-footbridges-so-high/#comment-511881 Thu, 11 Apr 2019 08:39:23 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=9164#comment-511881 In reply to Philip.

I should really finish off my blog post on said topic on day…

Ramp down to the former pedestrian subway at Southern Cross Station

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By: Philip https://wongm.com/2019/04/why-are-melbourne-railway-station-footbridges-so-high/#comment-511846 Thu, 11 Apr 2019 02:49:37 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=9164#comment-511846 Southern Cross does have an underpass…but we’re not allowed in it.

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