Comments on: Grade separating the Cranbourne line https://wongm.com/2015/12/cranbourne-line-grade-separations/ Marcus Wong. Gunzel. Engineering geek. History nerd. Wed, 18 Nov 2020 03:58:43 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Prioritising level crossings: Safety, traffic, trains and politics – Daniel Bowen https://wongm.com/2015/12/cranbourne-line-grade-separations/#comment-675739 Wed, 05 Aug 2020 04:57:13 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=6595#comment-675739 […] (Marcus Wong has a good blog post with some detail on the Cranbourne line crossings.) […]

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By: Victorian level crossings to nowhere - Waking up in Geelong https://wongm.com/2015/12/cranbourne-line-grade-separations/#comment-672411 Mon, 27 Jul 2020 21:32:24 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=6595#comment-672411 […] there is a level crossing that never existed – an east-west road proposed in the 1990s that was never completed, and never will be due to a policy of no new level […]

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2015/12/cranbourne-line-grade-separations/#comment-406499 Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:49:53 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=6595#comment-406499 February 2016 update – the Level Crossing Removal Authority is keen on the “close the Abbots Road crossing and extend Pound Road over the tracks” idea:

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/wrong-way-turn-back-anger-at-plan-to-shut-busy-road-to-remove-level-crossing-20160228-gn5oya.html

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By: Brad https://wongm.com/2015/12/cranbourne-line-grade-separations/#comment-398817 Sun, 06 Dec 2015 07:48:16 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=6595#comment-398817 Closing Greens Rd and even Abbotts rd isn’t the greatest idea. There is quite a bit of traffic that goes both ways every day. You can just see how much when an accident occurs or the boom gates play up. My normal trip to work only takes about 15 minutes. If somthing does happen it can easily blow up to beyond 30 mins. last time the boom gates at Greens rd played up it took 10 minutes alone just to turn into the South Gippy from Pound Rd.

Abbotts rd is now more or less used as a rat run so people don’t go down Greens Rd. Although now it too filled with traffic as well.

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By: James Sinclair https://wongm.com/2015/12/cranbourne-line-grade-separations/#comment-398329 Thu, 03 Dec 2015 10:04:22 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=6595#comment-398329 Some quick replies I have to the above. As I lived in Cranbourne from 1986 to 2000, I have some history with the area. Now living in Narre Warren, I am not that far from Cranbourne today.

#1, the overhead across the South Gippsland Highway was cut a few years back, and no longer crosses over the highway.

#2, Yes, the line needed to be extended to Cranbourne East, for the Civic Center many years ago.

#3, There is urgent need for a new station at Greens Road. There are three bus routes at different cross roads with Greens road, including along the South Gippsland Highway right near the railway line.

#4, many in local council where very keen on the Cranbourne bypass road, and land is held in reserve for just such a road to be built. But, as said above, most of the traffic now goes via Pakenham.

#5, Thompsons road was a popular route for me to get home from my old haunt of Keysbourgh. It was a very busy road back then, and does need duplication.

#6, I can not believe there is still now traffic lights on the Hallam road corner. To link up Hallam road and Evans road, would make a great major road to run between Hallam and Pearcedale.

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By: Tim https://wongm.com/2015/12/cranbourne-line-grade-separations/#comment-398234 Wed, 02 Dec 2015 23:53:06 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=6595#comment-398234 I have had to go to a job interview on Greens Rd without a car a couple of times. It is a long way from the station. One day it was so hot the place where I interviewed felt sorry and gave me a lift back to the station. There would be a lot of apprentices who would have to catch the bus or get picked up from Dandenong station currently.

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2015/12/cranbourne-line-grade-separations/#comment-398040 Wed, 02 Dec 2015 05:08:11 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=6595#comment-398040 In reply to Craig.

Good points around the difficulty serving the dispersed industrial areas of the south-east, and thanks for the Google Maps traffic data tip (I’d forgotten all about that one).

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2015/12/cranbourne-line-grade-separations/#comment-398038 Wed, 02 Dec 2015 05:03:02 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=6595#comment-398038 In reply to Tom the first and best.

Good point about the Cranbourne Bypass – I’ve given up on it as a route to Phillip Island, and switched to the Koo Wee Rup Bypass instead.

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2015/12/cranbourne-line-grade-separations/#comment-398037 Wed, 02 Dec 2015 04:59:31 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=6595#comment-398037 In reply to Andrew S.

Google Streetview from January 2008 still shows the overhead in place, but covered tracks:

https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-38.1007299,145.2826382,3a,75y,155.34h,80.6t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sMjuqnT_5s7nWQziZsdiDMw!2e0!5s20080101T000000!7i3328!8i1664

With the new stabling yard being commissioned in October 2008:

http://vicsig.net/infrastructure/location/Cranbourne

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By: Tom the first and best https://wongm.com/2015/12/cranbourne-line-grade-separations/#comment-397956 Wed, 02 Dec 2015 00:53:46 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=6595#comment-397956 In reply to Craig.

Cranbourne East should have been built over a decade ago. It is much needed.

Building a grade separation when the crossing is initially built is much more efficient than going back later to grade separate. I believe the no new level crossings policy is state-wide.

I am sure that the South Gippsland Highway will be grade separated at Cranbourne eventually.

I am fairly sure that the Cranbourne Bypass is unlikely to be built in the foreseeable future. In times past it would have avoided most to all of the bellow 100km/h sections of the Highway but it is now 80km/h all the way to the South Gippsland Freeway and the development is soon to encroach on the Highway beyond the end of the Cranbourne Bypass reservation and as such the only lower speed section bypassed would be the short section of 60km/h through the Cranbourne shops. There is no reservation for the Cranbourne bypass to connect to the existing Freeway or even its planned future extension along the Westernport Highway. The bypass reservation is now surrounded by housing on all sides and thus there would be some complaint about its construction. And the clincher is that the Highway through Cranbourne is decreasingly the primary route to South Gippsland because, since the Pakenham Bypass opened, the traffic has cut across to the Princess freeway as that is a faster route and Koo Wee Rup has thus been bypassed because of the increase in traffic and the plan is to eventually upgrade Healesville-Koo Wee Rup Rd to freeway standard as far as the Pakenham bypass, completely avoiding Cranbourne.

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