Comments on: Filling the gap between the carriages https://wongm.com/2021/01/melbourne-siemens-train-gap-between-carriages/ Marcus Wong. Gunzel. Engineering geek. History nerd. Mon, 18 Jan 2021 23:15:11 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2021/01/melbourne-siemens-train-gap-between-carriages/#comment-736954 Mon, 18 Jan 2021 23:15:11 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=16946#comment-736954 In reply to Tom the first and best.

Good point there – the only ‘legacy’ station I’ve seen refitted is the lifts at Blackburn station, compensation from LXRA leaving the leaking subway in place.

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By: Tom the first and best https://wongm.com/2021/01/melbourne-siemens-train-gap-between-carriages/#comment-735929 Fri, 15 Jan 2021 07:04:04 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=16946#comment-735929 In reply to Marcus Wong.

The big money is currently being spent on the at grade stations, most of which did/do were/are relatively flat. The older grade separations are where most of the non-accessible ramps (as well as some other non-ramp accessibility issues) are, so they are mostly not getting the expenditure to fix them.

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2021/01/melbourne-siemens-train-gap-between-carriages/#comment-735870 Fri, 15 Jan 2021 00:30:37 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=16946#comment-735870 In reply to Heihachi_73.

Both are needed, but platform gap fillers are cheaper and easier to install than wholesale rebuilding of platforms.

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2021/01/melbourne-siemens-train-gap-between-carriages/#comment-735869 Fri, 15 Jan 2021 00:29:48 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=16946#comment-735869 In reply to Rob.

There is the “Public Transport Access Committee” which is consulted on projects:

https://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/footer/legal-and-policies/public-transport-access-committee/

But I think the real problem is that Melbourne is an aging rail system built before accessibility was considered, and there isn’t a commitment to spend the big money on bring it up to modern standards.

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By: Heihachi_73 https://wongm.com/2021/01/melbourne-siemens-train-gap-between-carriages/#comment-735019 Tue, 12 Jan 2021 21:30:17 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=16946#comment-735019 The platform gaps at stations should be of much more importance than the gap between two carriages. Speaking of disabled access, platform 3 at Auburn is a complete joke, the first carriage has to stop on a wooden(?!!!) platform extension made some time early-to-mid last century which is about a foot lower than the rest of the station which was built well over 100 years ago (which is already low because the standard Melbourne platform height was designed so that the trains that were built in the 1800s wouldn’t get their outward-swinging doors stuck when the train was crush-loaded).

Large gaps and platform height aside, the condition of most of suburban Melbourne’s platforms is appalling too, with moss growing on a fair number of stations (even premium stations) and brown gunk leaking down the walls of too many subways/underpasses to mention (Flinders Street and Glenferrie are notable enough); the older style tactile bumps installed in the Connex era are smooth on top and make people slip over in the wet (if the plastic bumps haven’t disintegrated, ended up on the tracks or are jutting out a mile because they were joined in strips and half have fallen out, making you trip over instead); a lot of platforms have dips in them (even when recently resurfaced!) which end up turning into large puddles as soon as Melbourne’s trademark weather does its thing. Never mind the fact that the newer stations have about a 2 metre gap between the train and the canopy (roof awning) so you get wet anyway. That’s before I mention the bus bays that are a mile from the station and in the open, with a tiny shelter if lucky – sorry, a glass canvas to make money off advertising, which may not even come with a seat when you’re waiting for that typically once-an-hour bus (putting a seat in the way of illuminated 8 foot tall signs or LCD panels is never a good thing apparently, especially when advertising something like Toyota around public transport).

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By: Rob https://wongm.com/2021/01/melbourne-siemens-train-gap-between-carriages/#comment-734667 Mon, 11 Jan 2021 22:51:05 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=16946#comment-734667 For too long, the government has ignored the needs of people with disabilities. The glacially slow upgrade of tram stops is a perfect example. Major vertical and horizontal gaps on train platforms (Richmond, West Richmond etc.) is another shameful example

I would like to see the government actively engage and employ people with disabilities to highlight the key issues and rectify them, removing just some of the barriers people with disabilities face in daily life

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By: Andrew https://wongm.com/2021/01/melbourne-siemens-train-gap-between-carriages/#comment-734614 Mon, 11 Jan 2021 20:38:49 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=16946#comment-734614 Martin Stewart. What an incredible human being.

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