Comments on: Change at Footscray for the City Loop? https://wongm.com/2014/11/inconvenient-interchange-footscray-for-city-loop/ Marcus Wong. Gunzel. Engineering geek. History nerd. Mon, 04 Sep 2023 06:23:07 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Metro Trains Melbourne managing overcrowded platforms - Waking up in Geelong https://wongm.com/2014/11/inconvenient-interchange-footscray-for-city-loop/#comment-887170 Mon, 04 Sep 2023 06:23:07 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=5235#comment-887170 […] reason – V/Line passengers changing for the City Loop have to exit the station then enter again to find their citybound […]

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By: Photos from ten years ago: February 2009 - Waking up in Geelong https://wongm.com/2014/11/inconvenient-interchange-footscray-for-city-loop/#comment-506698 Mon, 25 Feb 2019 20:32:36 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=5235#comment-506698 […] Completed in 2010, in 2013 the northern end was demolished as part of the Regional Rail Link project to make room for two additional platforms, which despite the money spent delivered a worse experience for interchange passengers. […]

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2014/11/inconvenient-interchange-footscray-for-city-loop/#comment-338965 Tue, 09 Dec 2014 05:30:10 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=5235#comment-338965 In reply to wxtre.

Climbing up and down from a footbridge is a pain in the arse, so it is no surprise that people would rather cross the street at ground level:

http://www.thenational.ae/uae/transport/pedestrians-opt-for-jaywalking-over-safer-bridge-near-abu-dhabi-mall
http://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/bangalore/article558796.ece

Through in the case of Footscray, jumping onto the railway tracks and climbing back onto the platform is far more dangerous than crossing a busy street.

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By: wxtre https://wongm.com/2014/11/inconvenient-interchange-footscray-for-city-loop/#comment-337863 Sat, 06 Dec 2014 02:22:54 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=5235#comment-337863 Man killed by train while crossing tracks at Footscray station

http://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/man-killed-by-train-while-crossing-tracks-at-footscray-station/story-fnii5sms-1227146700847
http://www.9news.com.au/national/2014/12/06/03/39/vic-man-hit-by-train-while-crossing-tracks

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2014/11/inconvenient-interchange-footscray-for-city-loop/#comment-337279 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 06:34:22 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=5235#comment-337279 In reply to wxtre.

The weather protection for the stairs and escalators is piss poor, but at least the main walkway is no longer the ‘Colander Bridge’:

http://www.ffrr.footscray.org/documents/colander-bridge

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By: wxtre https://wongm.com/2014/11/inconvenient-interchange-footscray-for-city-loop/#comment-336040 Mon, 01 Dec 2014 10:30:11 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=5235#comment-336040 It also appears there is also no covering from the elements as you transfer between platforms. It is quite bad design and gaudy, the only positive part of the station upgrade is the escalators.

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2014/11/inconvenient-interchange-footscray-for-city-loop/#comment-334722 Wed, 26 Nov 2014 03:00:24 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=5235#comment-334722 In reply to Tom the first and best..

Point taken, but by the same logic not upgrading the Melbourne-Sydney railway means we are prepared for a 500 km/h Maglev train. 😛

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By: Regional Rail Link to skip Sunshine station? - Waking up in Geelong https://wongm.com/2014/11/inconvenient-interchange-footscray-for-city-loop/#comment-334560 Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:30:04 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=5235#comment-334560 […] platforms were built on the new tracks at just two stations: Footscray and Sunshine. With an inconvenient interchange at Footscray and no platforms at North Melbourne, Sunshine is the stand out station for passenger […]

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By: Tom the first and best. https://wongm.com/2014/11/inconvenient-interchange-footscray-for-city-loop/#comment-334154 Sun, 23 Nov 2014 01:25:47 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=5235#comment-334154 In reply to Tom the first and best..

Not having the RRL electrified to 1.5 kv DC allows for future electrification with 25 kv AC, which makes regional electrification more economic.

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2014/11/inconvenient-interchange-footscray-for-city-loop/#comment-333810 Fri, 21 Nov 2014 06:52:20 +0000 http://wongm.com/?p=5235#comment-333810 In reply to Tom the first and best..

Untangling suburban and V/Line trains at the city end would require flyovers or flat junctions as you suggest, but having the flexibility to use both track pairs for either type of service would be a good thing.

I foresee a day where the electrified tracks get blocked, leaving suburban trains banked up at Sunshine along with hoardes of stranded passengers. Knowing the pigheadedness of the two rail operators, I doubt V/Line would even let suburban passenger use their trains to get past the blockage!

The reverse may also apply to V/Line services – if the RRL tracks get blocked in a disruption, will country services use the suburban tracks as far as Sunshine, or will V/Line just call in the buses from Melbourne all the way out to Geelong / Ballarat / Bendigo.

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