Comments on: How V/Line could cater for future growth https://wongm.com/2017/08/vline-cater-for-future-growth-longer-high-capacity-trains/ Marcus Wong. Gunzel. Engineering geek. History nerd. Fri, 23 Aug 2024 05:46:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Nine car trains and the short platform at Deer Park - Waking up in Geelong https://wongm.com/2017/08/vline-cater-for-future-growth-longer-high-capacity-trains/#comment-946979 Fri, 23 Aug 2024 05:46:12 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=8670#comment-946979 […] Opposition transport spokesman and part time gunzel Matthew Guy kicked off the topic with a video posted to Instagram, detailing how the newly built platforms at Deer Park station were 10 metres short of a nine car VLocity train. […]

]]>
By: Photos from ten years ago: July 2014 - Waking up in Geelong https://wongm.com/2017/08/vline-cater-for-future-growth-longer-high-capacity-trains/#comment-943890 Mon, 29 Jul 2024 21:32:15 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=8670#comment-943890 […] new platforms were also ready for 9-car long trains, the first of which didn’t run until […]

]]>
By: First day at the new Deer Park station - Waking up in Geelong https://wongm.com/2017/08/vline-cater-for-future-growth-longer-high-capacity-trains/#comment-875953 Sun, 18 Jun 2023 08:00:57 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=8670#comment-875953 […] What makes this omission even worse is that V/Line just completed a week long shutdown of the Geelong, Ballarat and Bendigo lines to extend the 190 metre platforms at Sunshine to 225 metres long. […]

]]>
By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2017/08/vline-cater-for-future-growth-longer-high-capacity-trains/#comment-856153 Fri, 18 Nov 2022 02:02:24 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=8670#comment-856153 In reply to Robbie.

A flyover at the city end of Sunshine station feeding into platforms sorted by their final destination is the most logical arrangement given the lack of space for junctions at the other end.

Yet Melbourne Airport Rail is jamming in a flyover at the down end because they don’t want to rebuild Albion or Sunshine stations, because “it appropriately allocates relevant project costs to MAR”.

https://twitter.com/aussiewongm/status/1572369864463126530

]]>
By: Robbie https://wongm.com/2017/08/vline-cater-for-future-growth-longer-high-capacity-trains/#comment-855897 Tue, 15 Nov 2022 04:11:24 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=8670#comment-855897 Meanwhile in several European nations (Germany, Austria, Switzerland and France, among others) they’re extending platforms to 400 metre lengths to accommodate coupled ICE/RailJet/IC/TGV sets. The Zurich S-Bahn operates twelve-car double-deck EMUs, consisting of either three four-car units (Re 450 / RABe 514) or two six-car units (RABe 511).

The proposed upgrade to Sunshine station is yet again going to constrain future capacity by cutting costs now, if the plans that have been publicly released are anything to go by. What they should be doing is expanding the station to four island platforms of 250 m length (with space to accommodate future extensions to 400 m), allocating two platforms to V/line and two to Metro, and building a set of flying junctions on the Up side to eliminate route conflicts. If the platforms were arranged so that 1,2,5,6 were allocated to V/line services and 3,4,7,8 were allocated to Metro services, this paves the way for complete separation of the two operators once an extra track pair is built along both the Ballarat and Bendigo branches. It would also remove an impediment to standardising V/line.

The flying junctions needn’t be as elaborate as the ones in Sydney that sort suburban services. One flyover that has three tracks at the Down end and bifuricates into a single track and a pair of tracks at the Up end will do the job. The Up Sunbury/Airport line would pass over the Wyndham Vale lines, and the Bendigo lines would pass over both the Wyndham Vale lines and Down Ballarat line.

Why doesn’t DoT, V/line, Metro, or indeed anyone plan for incremental future upgrades by doing it right the first time?

]]>
By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2017/08/vline-cater-for-future-growth-longer-high-capacity-trains/#comment-840182 Sun, 03 Jul 2022 13:55:17 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=8670#comment-840182 In reply to James.

Yep – started with the new timetable on 30 May 2022, they currently run express through Sunshine to just Tarneit and Wyndham Vale thanks to the short platforms.

VLocity VL77 leads sets VL32 and VL31 express through Sunshine on a 9-car train to Wyndham Vale

]]>
By: James https://wongm.com/2017/08/vline-cater-for-future-growth-longer-high-capacity-trains/#comment-840142 Sun, 03 Jul 2022 06:29:55 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=8670#comment-840142 Wow the 9 car Vlocities actually happened in 2022! 5 years after this blog post. Now they have to extend the Sunshine platforms, instead of doing it originally. Looks like they abandoned the high capacity next generation regional trains. Can’t find a reference anywhere except that they’ve changed to future outer commuter rolling stock in the updated rolling stock document.

]]>
By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2017/08/vline-cater-for-future-growth-longer-high-capacity-trains/#comment-498420 Mon, 21 Jan 2019 04:55:47 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=8670#comment-498420 In reply to Mace Windu.

Back in 2016 the State Government allocated $5 million to investigate the Upfield – Somerton link:

https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/getting-it-done-for-north-east-victoria/

]]>
By: Mace Windu https://wongm.com/2017/08/vline-cater-for-future-growth-longer-high-capacity-trains/#comment-498415 Mon, 21 Jan 2019 02:08:50 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=8670#comment-498415 In reply to Marcus Wong.

Peak hour suburban services get horribly crowded and besides possibly putting in an extra platform at Craigieburn I’m not sure you’d get more V/Line services in. Maybe they could use the broad gauge track on the Albion Jacana line but they need to reinstate the Somerton link ASAP

]]>
By: Which V/Line train type is the most reliable? - Waking up in Geelong https://wongm.com/2017/08/vline-cater-for-future-growth-longer-high-capacity-trains/#comment-455115 Mon, 09 Apr 2018 21:32:21 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=8670#comment-455115 […] V/Line’s difficulty in merely keeping up with patronage growth, I don’t see the retirement of life expired rolling stock happening any time […]

]]>