Comments on: Farewell to Melbourne’s first electric bus https://wongm.com/2024/01/farewell-transdev-melbourne-first-electric-bus/ Marcus Wong. Gunzel. Engineering geek. History nerd. Thu, 21 Nov 2024 08:53:05 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Melboman https://wongm.com/2024/01/farewell-transdev-melbourne-first-electric-bus/#comment-961548 Thu, 21 Nov 2024 08:53:05 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21733#comment-961548 I like the electric busses. They ride almost like trams, and have an interesting sound at high-speed, otherwise dead silent at low speed.

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By: indigohex3 https://wongm.com/2024/01/farewell-transdev-melbourne-first-electric-bus/#comment-909869 Sat, 27 Jan 2024 22:50:17 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21733#comment-909869 In reply to Marcus Wong.

Stand corrected. I was actually on one of Kinetic’s hybrids on Route 901 a couple of weeks ago from Gladstone Park to Melbourne Airport (I was doing a first aid course in Aintree, not far from the bus stop).

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By: Liam https://wongm.com/2024/01/farewell-transdev-melbourne-first-electric-bus/#comment-908088 Mon, 22 Jan 2024 13:17:09 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21733#comment-908088 A few times I have caught the 901 it was hybrid Scania. First time I thought it had stalled until it moved off without the engine running.

Seem to use small batteries (18.5kWh) at very high C rates (120kW recharge, 200kW discharge, poor battery) per the spec sheet https://www.scania.com/content/dam/scanianoe/market/au/products-and-services/buses-and-coaches/spec-sheets/SCA0717-City-Bus-UB4X2-K-Series-spec-sheet_SAU2020-09-KSeries_4x2-v2.pdf

Not sure the arterial routes of the 901 suits this hybrid well as the engine would restart every time the bus moved off, the acceleration to 70 or 80kph being a demanding task.

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By: Anthony B https://wongm.com/2024/01/farewell-transdev-melbourne-first-electric-bus/#comment-906006 Mon, 15 Jan 2024 12:27:06 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21733#comment-906006 In reply to Anthony B.

The bus is now XB65KF (Queensland), though I do not know which operator. I assume Transdev Queensland has it.

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By: Anthony B https://wongm.com/2024/01/farewell-transdev-melbourne-first-electric-bus/#comment-906005 Mon, 15 Jan 2024 12:23:53 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21733#comment-906005 In reply to Marcus Wong.

You’re right. Ex-3000 was mo8190, not mo8188. My mistake.

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By: indigohex3 https://wongm.com/2024/01/farewell-transdev-melbourne-first-electric-bus/#comment-905976 Mon, 15 Jan 2024 05:55:51 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21733#comment-905976 In reply to Marcus Wong.

Probably gone under the radar for me, as I was only familiar with CDC Melbourne and not the hybrids that are with Kinetic. Stand corrected.

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By: Jenny https://wongm.com/2024/01/farewell-transdev-melbourne-first-electric-bus/#comment-905964 Mon, 15 Jan 2024 01:12:39 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21733#comment-905964 All electric buses need to be introduced rather than hybrid.Can we research overseas ? Not a fan of petrochemical based fuels

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By: Nicole Hyatt https://wongm.com/2024/01/farewell-transdev-melbourne-first-electric-bus/#comment-905912 Sun, 14 Jan 2024 12:18:02 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21733#comment-905912 What’s going on

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By: James D https://wongm.com/2024/01/farewell-transdev-melbourne-first-electric-bus/#comment-905910 Sun, 14 Jan 2024 12:00:35 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21733#comment-905910 It’s interesting to see how slow the rollout of electric buses has been in Australia. I’m Australian but I live in Santiago, Chile. The government here over the last 5 years has overseen a huge rollout of fully electric buses. There are now well over 2000 in service here, mostly in the capital, but there are some in the regions. They are all imported fully-built direct from China, mostly BYD.

There are a few differences between Australia and Chile worth taking into account though. One is that the existing bus fleet contains many Diesel buses that are very old, with little to no emissions controls, so there is a lot of fleet renovation that is required anyway.

Secondly, Chile’s power grid has a higher number of renewables than Australia, with hydro the main renewable source, but solar and wind are growing rapidly as well. Coal only makes up around 15 percent of capacity, and this is steadily declining. Gas makes up another 15 percent approx, as does Diesel, which is often still used in remote areas not connected to the national grid.

Lastly, although there are private companies operating the buses, the central government makes all buying decisions, and then supplies those vehicles to the operators. So it makes sense to order hundreds at a time, instead of a few dozen.

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By: Greg https://wongm.com/2024/01/farewell-transdev-melbourne-first-electric-bus/#comment-905906 Sun, 14 Jan 2024 11:14:27 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=21733#comment-905906 I don’t believe anybody should be standing on a bus.
Safety first.

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