Comments on: Extending Melbourne suburban train lengths is nothing new https://wongm.com/2017/11/extending-melbourne-suburban-train-lengths-nothing-new/ Marcus Wong. Gunzel. Engineering geek. History nerd. Wed, 01 Jan 2025 12:28:22 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: A history of smoking on Victorian trains - Waking up in Geelong https://wongm.com/2017/11/extending-melbourne-suburban-train-lengths-nothing-new/#comment-958768 Mon, 04 Nov 2024 20:32:12 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=7605#comment-958768 […] carriages being for smoking, and ‘trailer’ carriages non-smoking – which when usually marshaled in a 50/50 ratio, gave more space for […]

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By: Extended and shortened High Capacity Metro Trains hit the tracks - Waking up in Geelong https://wongm.com/2017/11/extending-melbourne-suburban-train-lengths-nothing-new/#comment-747986 Thu, 01 Apr 2021 01:10:10 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=7605#comment-747986 […] 6-car ‘Normal Capacity Metro Train’. At 138 metres long it is five metres shorter than existing Melbourne suburban trains, so can use any platform on the network. The 1180 passenger capacity is smaller than a […]

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By: What does $2.1 billion for the Sunbury line get? - Waking up in Geelong https://wongm.com/2017/11/extending-melbourne-suburban-train-lengths-nothing-new/#comment-524703 Mon, 03 Jun 2019 21:33:00 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=7605#comment-524703 […] rebuilt Springvale station opened in 2014 – did someone miss the “new platforms must be 160 metres long” […]

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By: How long is a railway station platform? – Daniel Bowen dot com https://wongm.com/2017/11/extending-melbourne-suburban-train-lengths-nothing-new/#comment-498399 Sun, 20 Jan 2019 20:41:19 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=7605#comment-498399 […] More history from Marcus Wong on past extensions of platforms in Melbourne […]

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By: Tom the first and best https://wongm.com/2017/11/extending-melbourne-suburban-train-lengths-nothing-new/#comment-443078 Thu, 09 Nov 2017 05:19:12 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=7605#comment-443078 In reply to Marcus Wong.

It would be ideal from a passenger point of view to have entrances on each side of the roads but it would likely be significantly more expensive and the roads with stations are single carriageways (with the possible exception of Clayton) and mainly is shopping strips and thus have lower speed limits.

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2017/11/extending-melbourne-suburban-train-lengths-nothing-new/#comment-443076 Thu, 09 Nov 2017 03:40:36 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=7605#comment-443076 In reply to Tom the first and best.

And to make things even worse – the exits aren’t even on either side of the road!

https://www.danielbowen.com/2016/02/11/skyrail/

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By: Tom the first and best https://wongm.com/2017/11/extending-melbourne-suburban-train-lengths-nothing-new/#comment-443006 Tue, 07 Nov 2017 12:47:09 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=7605#comment-443006 In reply to Marcus Wong.

I have seen no sign of platform entrances planned for the far end of skyail platforms, they seem to be concentrated.

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2017/11/extending-melbourne-suburban-train-lengths-nothing-new/#comment-442999 Tue, 07 Nov 2017 09:29:11 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=7605#comment-442999 In reply to Kevin.

I would bloody well hope these extended platforms would have multiple exits – it’s a long enough walk already at stations where the exit is at one end!

https://thomasthethinkengine.com/2014/06/18/faster-train-journeys-some-low-hanging-fruit/

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2017/11/extending-melbourne-suburban-train-lengths-nothing-new/#comment-442998 Tue, 07 Nov 2017 09:26:28 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=7605#comment-442998 In reply to Michael Bell.

The new ‘Skyrail’ stations should be open by 2018, while 10 car trains have to wait until the Metro Tunnel opens in 2026. So empty platforms sitting around for eight years, versus an extended build time while trains are running – it’s a tricky one.

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By: Marcus Wong https://wongm.com/2017/11/extending-melbourne-suburban-train-lengths-nothing-new/#comment-442997 Tue, 07 Nov 2017 09:24:53 +0000 https://wongm.com/?p=7605#comment-442997 In reply to Michael Bell.

I would assume if the longer trains are going to be running ‘soon’ the platforms should get built now, if it is a decade or more away, maybe give it a miss.

An overseas parallel is the Ma On Shan line in Hong Kong. An elevated railway opened in 2004, 4-car platforms were initially provided but with provision to run far longer trains in future, 8-car trains were introduced in 2017, with platform extensions required

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma_On_Shan_Line

It took the MTR four years to complete the work while trains were not running:

https://www.mtr.com.hk/archive/corporate/en/press_release/PR-16-112-E.pdf

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